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Ray G

I've always used "neither" with "nor" as you've said, but always thought I was somehow breaking the double negative rule.

This is the only way it seems to make sense though, so there it is.


Although it's true that "not X and Y" implies that X and Y are a team, it's not rare. In fact, if you search a large corpus for "(neg) (verb) (noun) and/or (noun)", you'll find that 'and' is only about 10% more common than 'or'.

Gura Sumi

“The second sentence would be a rare usage.”
No. Not rare at all. But incorrect for complete negation.
For partial negation, it is usual, as in the following examples:

Did you see John and Peter?
No, I only saw Peter.

Did you bring beer and chips?
No, I only brought beer.

Do you sell women’s and men's clothes?
No, we sell only men's clothes.

Mr. Bird, do you have arms and legs?
Bird: No, I only have legs.

Mr. Snake, do you have arms and legs?
Snake: No, I don’t have arms and legs; in fact, I have neither.

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